Greatest musical geniuses

In genius studies, greatest musical geniuses (GMG:#) (TR:17) refers to []

Genius rankings
The following is a work-in-progress ranking of classical musical geniuses amid the top 1000 geniuses:


IQ
Person
Musical Rankings
Discussion


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1.180

170
Beethoven 75Ludwig Beethoven
(1770-1827)

[RGM:18|1,310+] (Murray 4000:1|WM) (RBCC:2|275+) A classical musical genius; met with Goethe (see: Goethe and Beethoven); Otto Weininger (IQ:180|#106) died in the same room he did; ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#3) [3]; polls (2015) are split (Ѻ) as to whether Mozart or Beethoven was smarter; Giovetti (2011) top 10 Composers (#4) [4]; Plotkin (2011) top 10 Composers (#3) [4]; Tommasini (2011) top 10 Composers (#2). [4]
2.175

175
Richard Wagner 75Richard Wagner
(1813-1883)

(Cattell 1000:337) [RGM:98|1,310+] (Murray 4000:4|WM) (RBCC:13|275+) IQ estimate 175 (Ѻ); a semi-ranked “universal genius” (T.K. Seung, 2006); read Schopenhauer four times in 1853, which switched his mind from Feuerbachian atheism to an Schopenhauerian atheism; had a peculiar relationship (Ѻ) with Nietzsche (IQ:190|31); ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#4) [3]; Plotkin (2011) top 10 Composers (#8) [4]; Tommasini (2011) top 10 Composers (#9). [4]
3.170

320
Wolfgang Mozart 75Wolfgang Mozart
(1756-1791)

(Cattell 1000:N/A) [RGM:8|1,310+] (Murray 4000:2|WM) (MG:3) (RBCC:3|275+) Austrian classical era composer; ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#2) [3]; Giovetti (2011) top 10 Composers (#3) [4]; Tommasini (2011) top 10 Composers (#3). [4]
4.165

337
Bach 75Johann Bach
(1685-1750)

[RGM:16|1,310+] (Murray 4000:3|WM) (RBCC:1|275+) ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#1) [3]; Giovetti (2011) top 10 Composers (#2) [4]; Plotkin (2011) top 10 Composers (#2) [4]; Tommasini (2011) top 10 Composers (#1). [4]
5.165

349
Johannes Brahms 75Johannes Brahms
(1883-1897)

[RGM:114|1,310+] (RBCC:7|275+) Cox 300 (Ѻ) missing genius (Robinson, 2010); ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#9) [3]; 500 geniuses cited (Ѻ) missing candidate (2017); Tommasini (2011) top 10 Composers (#7). [4]
6.165

350
Igor Stravinsky 75Igor Stravinsky
(1882-1971)

[RGM:380|1,310+] (RBCC:22|275+); Giovetti (2011) top 10 Composers (#9) [4]; Tommasini (2011) top 10 Composers (#6). [4]
7.165

347
George Handel 75George Handel
(1685-1759)

[RGM:N/A|1,310+] (RBCC:9|275+) ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#14). [3]
8.165

355
Frederic Chopin 75Frederic Chopin
(1810-1849)

[RGM:110|1,310+] ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#7) [3]; a “Classical Composer” missing genius (2017) to the “Top 500 geniuses: 301-400” range [1]; Plotkin (2011) top 10 Composers (#6). [4]
9.165

365
Felix Mendelssohn 75Felix Mendelssohn
(1809-1847)

[RGM:N/A|1,310+] (RBCC:19|275+) Grandson of Moses Mendelssohn; student of Carl Zelter; performed for Goethe at age 12.
10.165

369
Franz Schubert 75Franz Schubert
(1797-1828)

[RGM:132|1,310+] (RBCC:8|275+) Cox 300 (Ѻ) missing genius (Robinson, 2010); 500 geniuses cited (Ѻ) missing candidate (2017); ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#5) [3]; Giovetti (2011) top 10 Composers (#5) [4]; Plotkin (2011) top 10 Composers (#4) [4]; Tommasini (2011) top 10 Composers (#4). [4]
11.165

370
Giuseppe Verdi 75Giuseppe Verdi
(1813-1901)

[RGM:82|1,310+] (RBCC:16|275+) ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#10) [3]; Giovetti (2011) top 10 Composers (#6); [1]; Tommasini (2011) top 10 Composers (#8). [4]
12.160

410
Peter Tchaikovsky 75Peter Tchaikovsky
(1840-1893)

[RGM:62|1,310+] ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#12) [3]; Plotkin (2011) top 10 Composers (#9). [4]
13.160

411
Sergei Rachmaninov 75Sergei Rachmaninov
(1873-1943)

[RGM:N/A|1,310+] ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#13). [3]
14.160

412
Hildegard von Bingen 75Hildegard von Bingen
(1098-1179)

[RGM:206|1,310+] Giovetti (2011) top 10 Composers (#1) [4]; a Mike Fuller (2014) smartest woman ever (Ѻ) (IQ:150+) candidate.
15.160

413
Hector Berloiz 75Hector Berlioz
(1803-1869)

[RGM:N/A|1,310+] HMS pioneer; a 2010 “Classical Composer” missing genius to the “Top 500 geniuses: 301-400” range [1]; Plotkin (2011) top 10 Composers (#4). [4]
16.160

425
Christoph Gluck 75Christoph Gluck
(1714-1787)

On his opera "Iphigénie en Tauride" (Iphigenia in Tauris) (1779) (Ѻ), a drama is ultimately based on the play Iphigenia in Tauris by the ancient Greek dramatist Euripides which deals with stories concerning the family of Agamemnon in the aftermath of the Trojan War, Friedrich Schiller (IQC 165) (1801) commented, in a letter to his friend Körner, "Never has so pure and lovely a music affected me, it is a world of harmony which presses directly to the soul and dissolves in sweet exalted melancholy." Richard Wagner (IQC 170) called him "the great Gluck". IQ gauged (Ѻ) by LePenseur (Dec 2017) at 160.
17.
Gustav Mahler
(1860-1911)

ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#11) [3]; Giovetti (2011) top 10 Composers (#7). [4]
18.
Claude Debussy
(1862-1918)

A 2017 “Classical Composer” missing genius to the “top 500 geniuses: 301-400” range [1]; Tommasini (2011) top 10 Composers (#5). [4]
19.
Bela Bartok
(1881-1945)

A 2017 “Classical Composer” missing genius to the “Top 500 geniuses: 301-400” range [1]; Tommasini (2011) top 10 Composers (#10). [4]
20.
Claudio Monteverdi
(1567-1643)

Plotkin (2011) top 10 Composers (#1). [4]
21.
Robert Schumann
(1810-1856)

ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#6). [3]
22.
Franz Liszt
(1811-1886)

ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#8). [3]
23.
Arnold Schoenberg
(1874-1951)

A 2017 “Classical Composer” missing genius to the “Top 500 geniuses: 301-400” range. [1]
24.
Dmitri Shostakovich
(1906-1975)

A 2017 “Classical Composer” missing genius to the “Top 500 geniuses: 301-400” range. [1]
25.160

595
Joseph Haydn 75Joseph Haydn
(1732-1809)

(Cattell 1000:300) [RGM:383|1,500+] (Murray 4000:5|WM) (Gottlieb 1000:396) (GMG:26) Austrian composer;

“There was no one near to confuse me, so I was forced to become original.”
— Joseph Haydn (c.1790), Publication (Ѻ)

aka “Joseph Haydn” (Sirius Pops, 2020); ListVerse (2009) top 15 Composer (#15). [3]
26.
Charles Ives
(1874-1954)

Giovetti (2011) top 10 Composers (#8). [4]
27.
Richard Strauss
(1864-1949)

Plotkin (2011) top 10 Composers (#10). [4]
28.
David Lang
(1957-)

Giovetti (2011) top 10 Composers (#10). [4]

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Classical composers
In Feb 2017, the following were the top 500 geniuses rankings for classical composers: [1]

1. Igor Stravinsky (IQ:180|#141)
2. Richard Wagner (IQ:175|#175)
3. George Handel (IQ:170|#253)
4. Ludwig Beethoven (IQ:165|280)
5. Johann Bach (IQ:165|#288)
6. Wolfgang Mozart (IQ:165|#302)
7. Mendelssohn (IQ:165|#308)
8. Giuseppe Verdi (IQ:150|#424)

This group yields a mean IQ of 167 (166.88).

In 2010, British genius studies (Ѻ) scholar Andrew Robinson, in his Sudden Genius? The Gradual Path to Creative Breakthroughs, stated that the following musical geniuses are blatantly missing from the Cox IQ group: [2]

Johannes Brahms
Franz Schubert

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See also

Artistic geniuses

References
1. Anon (Michigan). (2017). “Classical Composers”, Thread post (Ѻ), to page: Top 500 geniuses: 301-400, Feb 24.
2. (a) Robinson, Andrew. (2010). Sudden Genius? The Gradual Path to Creative Breakthroughs (pg. 20). Oxford University Press.
(b) Robinson, Andrew. (2011). Genius: a Very Short Introduction. Oxford University Press.
(c) W. Andrew Robinson – Wikipedia.
3. Anon. (2009). “Top 15 Greatest Composers of All Time” (Ѻ), Dec 17.
4. Wise, Brian. (2011). “Ten Greatest Composers: Beyond the Usual Suspect” (top ten lists: Olivia Giovetti, Judd Greenstein, Fred Plotkin) (Ѻ), WQXR.org, PodCast (23-min), Jan 21.

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